Jack, you've not made an effort to answer my questions.

I'm really glad you mentioned JERC. The JERC idiots who interrupted a CDC meeting were completely out of order. But their vile techniques have not been formally approved by the government in Madrid. There is a significant difference between the incidents.

I get the impression that as far as you're concerned, JERC are evil and insupportable but their right-wing, Spanish nationalist equivalents - who have been shown to have direct impact on the PP's policy and governance - are somehow legitimate.

This, therefore, is the point: you can't have it both ways.

Rab darling,

so valencians are banning catalan?? Did You really look at the webpage? I think it's not written in chinese... :------)
http://www.valenciafreedom.com/web/index.php?newlang=valencia

Hilarious Rab, You complain about not enough catalan media and at the same time don't stop giving me a whole bunch of links to catalan/valenc¡an webpages like el punt, avui, contrastant, antiblavers... Are You ok, Rab?

PD: Oh yes, I spent some time in Wikipedia. I recommend You this as good-night-lecture: http://es.wikisource.org/wiki/Manifiesto_de_los_2.300 ;-)

Oh Jack, I knew you would not disappoint me. Your messages are getting funnier by the day!

Since you refuse to challenge the 6 answers I put to you, I take it you are running out of arguments or just agree with my assessment.
Now all you can show is a website of RTVE translated into Catalan. Very good. What does it prove anyway? My earlier post already acknowledges that the public estate broadcaster has a limited output in Catalan. About 4-6 hours a day between the two channels La Primera y La 2, never prime time.) Is that equal and fair?

Let's remind our patient readers of question number 4:

"4) How many TV stations broadcast in Spanish and Catalan in Catalonia? Do you think there is an equal split? (Let's leave Valencia and the Balearics out of this, since you have already almost eliminated the language in these areas, congratulations.)
A: Last time I visited, there were 3 channels in Catalan and 6 in Spanish, with some networks having a local output in Catalan every now and then. Hardly equal, is it? No chance of watching Catalan TV other areas of Spain through terrestrial TV, unlike Belgium or Switzerland."

+ Do you think the above is true? Yes or no will do, thanks.
+ Tell me, where exactly, do I mention that Valencia is part of Catalonia or Països Catalans?

With your second link though, you really have shown your true colours. Everything is becoming apparent now.

Again, for the fourth time, you blatantly manipulate what has not been said. Let's check what I did write:

"2) What language is banned from the Spanish Parliament?
Any language other than Spanish. MPs from Catalonia, Valencia, Balearics, the Basque country or Galicia are banned from using their own language."

No hint that Valencia is part of Catalonia there either, is it?
Perhaps it is something that awakes you at night, a nightmare of your nationalistic mind.

But what shows the kind of person you are, and what is your true ideology and political agenda, is the fact you have skipped the issue about the attacks to the bookshop in Valencia. Now I understand why. The source you quote (valenciafreedom.com) is a web site used regularly by the Vinatea Group. These bunch of thugs are the ones that attack bookshops, assault university lectures, and threaten and harass any Valencian person who dares to speak their own language.
http://www.antiblavers.info/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ViolènciaBlavera

For your information, antiblavers.info is a web site set up by university academics.

+ I will ask again: Jack, what's your opinion of the actual and repeated attacks to the bookshop 3i4 and other community centres in the Valencia region by members of the Vinatea group and other members of the blavero movement?

I put the link from Levante-EMV again so that you can read about it:
http://www.levante-emv.com/secciones/noticia.jsp?pNumEjemplar=3282&pIdSeccion=19&pIdNoticia=230851&rand=1158378345842

Your paragraph starting "So You really believe catalans feel being a nation and not part of Spain?" is another example of your technique of manipulation and futile lying. Since you cannot address any of the issues raised, and even refuse to condemn actual attacks to a bookshops in Valencia, you bring a new topic to the "debate". This way, we keep moving the goalposts, forever changing the subject, with a view to avoid acknowledging your own bias and prejudice. But with every message you write it becomes clear that you hate anything and everything related to Catalonia, Jack/Jose.

+ Can you tell me where exactly in any of my previous messages do I imply or mention that I believe that Catalans feel being a nation and not part of Spain?

If you can read, you will notice that all I am saying is that Spain is on a mission to assimilate Catalonia into Spain at all levels, politically, culturally and economically, and to erradicate any sense of identity, however weak, from Catalonia. Readers can check my earlier message posted on 16/09/06 at 05:03pm if they want to check what I actually wrote.

Probably your most hilarious message so far is the paragraph starting "Catalan is discriminated…". This shows that you are a true liar, again. You have the audacity to write
"During the statute speeches in Madrid this year, all catalan deputees (Mas, Carod-Rovira, Saura, etc) spoke in catalan."
What a miserable lie, Jack/Jose.
This is what actually happened last year 2005:
http://www.contrastant.net/ves/tarda.htm
And this is what happened this year 2006:
http://www.libertaddigital.com:83/php3/noticia.php3?fecha_edi_on=2005-05-24&num_edi_on=1453&cpn=1276252297&seccion=SOC_D

"Manuel Marín, le cortó recordándole que el vigente Reglamento sólo permitir (sic) utilizar el castellano". As the Spanish saying goes, 'más claro agua'. (By the way, the typo is from the LD site, manda cojones.

You blatantly lie, as we have become accustomed to by now, when you write that "Mas, Carod-Rovira, Saura, etc" spoke in Catalan.
They did not, and if they did, show me a link and I will rectify. They introduced themselves in Catalan with some symbolic remark (i.e: "bon dia"), but their intervention, the message, was ALL in Spanish, because Spanish is the only language allowed and all the others are banned.
For your information, Catalan, and the other languages apart from Spanish, are only allowed ONE DAY A YEAR in el Senado during the Debate del Estado de las Autonomias. (Comisión General de las Comunidades Autónomas)
ONCE A YEAR JACK!

Your friends in the PP, refused a proposal to regulate the use of other languages in el Congreso in 2002. They rejected it, of course, citing Artículo 3.1, reminding everyone that the only language that is mandatory for all Spaniards to know is Spanish.

Read the minutes of the debate here:
http://www.congreso.es/public_oficiales/L7/CONG/DS/PL/PL_188.PDF#search=""Uso"+"Congreso de los Diputados"+"lengua castellana"" (pages 20-24)

By the way Jack, and I am not your “darling” or “honey”, thank God. And you don't need to insert token words in Catalan with a view to appear 'friendly'. Stop being a patronising loser, if you cannot stop being a manipulative liar.

And I too think you should stop reading Spanish-nationalistic media and websites, a little over-the-fence looking would do you good.

However I think you are a case beyond cure: you had an opportunity to condemn the fascist attacks a bookshop in Valencia but instead you quote a web site of the very group that provides ideological and logistical support to the people behind the attacks.

Heard the one about a pot and a kettle? ;-)

Do You mean something like the JERC violently preventing a Ciutadans de Catalunya (CdC) event?